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If Bush takes Florida that will give him enough
Electoral votes (271) to become president
but he will have lost the popular vote

If Gore takes Oregon
that will put him at 267 Electoral votes
just three shy of the 270 needed to win

now technically
the electoral college is supposed
to vote in accordance with the results
of the state balloting

and all but two states have a law
which establishes a winner take all
in respect to the electoral vote
which means whomever wins
the popular vote
for that state gets all of the votes

Now the electoral college
is not required to cast their votes this way
there have been several cases in the past
where a member of the electoral college
has voted contrary to the public vote

In most states
this is perfectly legal
in Washington state
it is a misdemeanor
which carries a $1000 dollar fine

In which case
I think we should all buck up
and agree to pay any related legal costs
for Electors who vote contrary to their state
and in accordance with the popular vote.

So all we have to do
is between now and December 18th
is to convince 4 members of the electoral college
to follow the Popular vote on the national level
instead of their particular states vote

If you live in a State
that went for Bush
go to this link

Electoral College Homepage

Under the first subheading "Electoral Results"
The last listing is "Electoral Votes, by State, listing individual electors:"
with links to the years 1992 and 1996

by Federal law
every state must prepare and file seven "Certificates of Ascertainment"
listing each of the Electors for that state
as soon as election results are finalized for that state

very shortly we should see a link for 2000 appear at the end of that line
which will list by state the names of all the electors
contact your electors
and tell them to support the popular vote
and cast their vote for Gore/Lieberman

If you don't live in a state that went for Bush
call electors from other states
once the list has been posted
I will attempt to gather contact information
for the 538 electors starting with the states that went for Bush
and will post it here

Some of you may want Bush to win
other may just think I am crazy
but I think of it this way

It is only a matter of changing the minds
of four people

people like you or I
and if you assume they follow the national demographic
half of them, when they cast their ballots
voted for Gore

(correction - each party selects a slate of electors equal to the total number of representatives which that state has in both houses of congress, so if the republicans won a state, then all of the republican electors were elected, so we need to convince four republicans to see things our way, a slight increase in difficulty but again it is only 4 people)

And if we succeed
we can say
we altered the course of history
for the most powerful nation on earth

How is that for something to tell your grand kids?

If you agree with my idea
link to it
spread the word
lets start a popular uprising
and make it happen

If you like this idea you can read more of my thoughts on this matter Here

remember
all we have to do
is convince
four people


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re: Stop Bush's theft of the people's will.

Date: 2000-11-08 09:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] millionz.livejournal.com
I agree with everything you say plural but it is not enough to wait until December 18th and hope we have convinced some electors to change their minds. We must act as soon as possible and frankly emailing a few people is just not enough. We need to get on the phone and call the people who work for us. Conveniently all of our elected officials have their phone numbers posted on the internet and are happy to take our calls. So go read this article written by Michael Moore http://www.michaelmoore.com/2000_11_08.html
it provides the link to a page that has the contact information for your state senators congressmen and governor. Call them today and we really might be able to change this thing.

Great everything and anything you do will help

Date: 2000-11-08 09:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plural.livejournal.com
But I want to make a clarification

Bush did not steal the peoples vote
this is a flaw in our system
some allegations have been made
of voter irregularities in certain
counties of Florida.

but that is not what this is about

this is about
Keeping the election of the presidency
in the hands of all the people
and not letting our votes be wasted

I will not stand by
and watch the candidate who was
elected by the majority of the popular vote
by a margin of some 200,000 people
be pushed aside because of a single state
and the choices of as few as 1000 voters
in that state.

to clarify

Date: 2000-11-08 10:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] millionz.livejournal.com
Plural,

I did not intend to imply that Bush had rigged the election in Florida. And obviously Bush is not the creator of the electoral process so really he is not the one to blame if Al Gore does indeed lose despite a popular vote win. "Stop Bush's theft of the people's will" is merely passionate rhetoric first written by Moore and lifted by me. But should Gore lose the electoral vote but win the popular vote how can a Bush refusal to step aside be anything but a Theft of the people's will. Again I urge all to call their senators today whether you live in a Bush state or not.

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