Interesting Side note

So they are say bush won
I guess it all hinges on Florida
since at least according to MSNBC
Florida hasn't swung definitively in Bush's favor yet
although everyone seems to expect it too

With 95% of the votes counted
which means
that 4,243,786 votes haven't been counted yet

Al Gore
Number of Votes - 47,125,460
Percentage of Popular Vote 48%
States Won 19
Electoral Votes Won 249

George W. Bush
Number of Votes 47,064,963
Percentage of Popular Vote 48%
States Won 29
Electoral Votes Won 246

Currently
Al Gore has 60,497 more votes than Bush

so we may have a situation
where the winner of the Popular Vote (Gore)
loses the Electoral Vote

regardless
this has been
for all the lack of interest in the candidates
an interesting election night

more tomorrow

of course
just for general mischief

I think
if Gore wins the Popular vote
and Bush wins the Electoral vote
We should revolt
not because I love Gore (in fact I only voted for him because I believed him to be less effective than Bush)
but
because
it would be
fun

just my nickel

Hell Ya!

The Monorail Proposition Passed!

Mayor Schell & the City Council can suck my left cock

One Civic ass whippin delivered - time to follow up with the one-two combination

(for those that aren't familiar with Seattle politics,
I-53 was named the "Re-elect the monorail"
because two years ago the people of Seattle
voted for a monorail system
and the city council responded
with a big middle finger to the voters)

Oh yeah
and all my other Candidates won
except for one (not counting the president cause well both of em made me sick but still its up in the air imho, fuck the pundits)

but he was third party
and still pulled in a respectable 20% of the vote
placing him squarely in 2nd place
(the incumbent Dem cakewalked in with 73% of the vote)

Corporations are like a tree full of monkeys

the ones at the top
look down and
see only smiling faces

the ones at the bottom
look up
and see only
assholes

a maybe not so crazy idea

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If Bush takes Florida that will give him enough
Electoral votes (271) to become president
but he will have lost the popular vote

If Gore takes Oregon
that will put him at 267 Electoral votes
just three shy of the 270 needed to win

now technically
the electoral college is supposed
to vote in accordance with the results
of the state balloting

and all but two states have a law
which establishes a winner take all
in respect to the electoral vote
which means whomever wins
the popular vote
for that state gets all of the votes

Now the electoral college
is not required to cast their votes this way
there have been several cases in the past
where a member of the electoral college
has voted contrary to the public vote

In most states
this is perfectly legal
in Washington state
it is a misdemeanor
which carries a $1000 dollar fine

In which case
I think we should all buck up
and agree to pay any related legal costs
for Electors who vote contrary to their state
and in accordance with the popular vote.

So all we have to do
is between now and December 18th
is to convince 4 members of the electoral college
to follow the Popular vote on the national level
instead of their particular states vote

If you live in a State
that went for Bush
go to this link

Electoral College Homepage

Under the first subheading "Electoral Results"
The last listing is "Electoral Votes, by State, listing individual electors:"
with links to the years 1992 and 1996

by Federal law
every state must prepare and file seven "Certificates of Ascertainment"
listing each of the Electors for that state
as soon as election results are finalized for that state

very shortly we should see a link for 2000 appear at the end of that line
which will list by state the names of all the electors
contact your electors
and tell them to support the popular vote
and cast their vote for Gore/Lieberman

If you don't live in a state that went for Bush
call electors from other states
once the list has been posted
I will attempt to gather contact information
for the 538 electors starting with the states that went for Bush
and will post it here

Some of you may want Bush to win
other may just think I am crazy
but I think of it this way

It is only a matter of changing the minds
of four people

people like you or I
and if you assume they follow the national demographic
half of them, when they cast their ballots
voted for Gore

(correction - each party selects a slate of electors equal to the total number of representatives which that state has in both houses of congress, so if the republicans won a state, then all of the republican electors were elected, so we need to convince four republicans to see things our way, a slight increase in difficulty but again it is only 4 people)

And if we succeed
we can say
we altered the course of history
for the most powerful nation on earth

How is that for something to tell your grand kids?

If you agree with my idea
link to it
spread the word
lets start a popular uprising
and make it happen

If you like this idea you can read more of my thoughts on this matter Here

remember
all we have to do
is convince
four people


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In all seriousness

This PLAN can work

What plan? Check out this Link

If enough people
call and write
their electors
between now and December 18th
we can change
four minds

its not like we are asking willy-nilly
for this change

We are asking these people
to support the will of the people
and elect the person
who got the majority of the popular vote
believed is right for the job

a few people have already said
they like my idea

and if you do to

Post a link to it in your journal

I will even provide the code
for those of you
who aren't HTML savvy

>a href="http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?itemid=739637"<

Just reverse the >< brackets
and paste it into your journal entry
then reverse the >< on this next line

Listen to the Vote of the People >/a<

and paste it in right behind the first
that is all there is too it

It should look like this once you have posted it into your journal

Listen to the Vote of the People

Getting Serious

Ok folks

I realize all of this maybe a little premature
as Florida hasn't finalized yet

I want to be ready to roar out of the gates
with this movement immediately
should it become necessary

by necessary I mean that a situation should develop
where the popular vote of the nation is countermanded
by the electoral votes, not that Gore loses

Basically the way I see progressing
is this:

I am in the process of registering a website/domain
dedicated to this concept

I will be meeting with my attorneys as soon as it can be arranged
to create a non-profit organization to be our flag, and create an account with a bank in the name of this organization

(also to cover my ass and make sure this doesn't end up getting me arrested)

Monies will be needed to cover the legal defense and cost/fees or judgements
against any Electors who we can sway and pay for the expenses related to
this effort (domain registration, webhosting, DNS listing etc)

I have already secured pledges of donations from several individuals
and will make up any shortfalls personally.

I will be drafting a statement of purpose
for the organization and a press release to that effect
anyone who has contacts within the media or public relations firms
please contact me to see how we can get more publicity

I want to be completely ready for this to move within 48 hours

until then it will be a word of mouth action
getting people ready and excited about the idea

An Important note on approach

The People of this nation, voted by a margin of approximately 200,000 votes
to elect one of the candidate to the office of President, 1000 people in Florida should not
be able to counteract the votes of the nation.

This is not about finding a way to
sneak Gore into office

This is about the overall rights of the people of this nation to have their votes counted and mean something, and not letting a few people, by chosen only by circumstance, override the wishes of the nation as a whole.

So you like the Idea and want to help

If you have been reading
you know what I am talking about

If you don't scroll down or
Click Here
also the last few journal entries of mine have been devoted to clarifying this idea
so reading those will probably be good as well

I need your help

If you live in a state
whose electoral votes went to Bush

call your Secretary of State's Office
and get the list of Republican Electoral Nominees
and send that list to me

If you don't live in a Bush State
call the Secretary of State's office of a state that did

you can get a list of the Disclosure Offices for each state
HERE
which includes phone number information for each office


if you want to be even more helpful
pick up your phonebook
and try to find Addresses and Phone numbers
for the people on that list
and send what you can find to me as well

I will be publishing the information
cataloged by state
on the new website which I will be starting
so that people can call them
and let them know
that we expect the Popular vote
to be upheld by the electoral college
and that we expect them
to cast their vote
for the candidate who won
the national popular vote.

Lets make our voices heard

Temporary Website

A Temporary Website has been brought live
at www.wolfenet.com/~plural

This is pretty crude but its gets this info out there in a pretty easy to read and reference format.

If there are any HTML/Web Design Gurus out there that want to grab the source and make it spiffy
feel free to do so and email it to me

yes I know I have greatly abused "BR" tags

Assistance Needed

Can anyone point me to a reliable counter
I want to track how many hits
the website gets

Budhaboy has been advertising it
and I want have those kind of figures handy

You help is appreciated

Thanks

Plural

Moving Right along and getting things set up

Ok we now have a Counter/Stat tracker set up

Any of you nifty Graphics people want to make us some banners or some otherwise nifty art to spice up the site

in case you havent seen it yet

<a href="http://www.wolfenet.com/~plural>Click Here</a> Just a heads up I have gotten a lot of emails and comments in support of this idea and a few well thought out criticisms I want to take a moment to thank you all for the time and thought you have put into this and to remind you Talk Link Post Shout Get the Word Out Four Minds to Change We can do it