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yep you read that right

for most of my life my sexual interactions have been secondary to my emotional interactions

by that I mean I was not having sex with someone simply because I found them to be physically attractive

instead their being physically attractive was secondary
[although still very important]
I was primarily turned on by their mind and heart

its a tricky thing to explain for me but in someways I think it doesn't require any explanation

physical attraction is one of the first steps in any interaction leading to romance
in a way it gives us enough curiosity and interest to discover if there is more there that we like

but it what we discover after that initial attraction which should be the motivator to further intimacies

and it is in this area that I have lost my way

even though I had similar feelings and thoughts about casual sexual interactions years ago

prior to my trip in 2002 such interactions were the exception not the rule they currently are

generally there was a period of less fulfilling interactions between relationships
where now, it seems there is just those interactions

although even still the majority of my extra-relationship sex has been with women;
close friends and many of them ex-girlfriends, who despite not having a committed romantic relationship
I respected greatly and had strong feelings for

I haven't had anything resembling a real relationship since I left Seattle

a number of circumstances helped me to avoid facing this reality
or made it seem more comfortable to me

when I was travelling it was easy because I was meeting women
whom I was greatly attracted to on the full spectrum of attributes
so even though I knew there was no possibility of a future with them it didn't feel,
and indeed wasn't, a purely sexual thing

on my return, living in north carolina it seemed like I could find women
who were almost what I was looking for
[especially if I didn't look to closely]
and so I let laziness and my own physical needs distract my mind from my discomfort with the situation

but up here even my most egregious sins of denial cannot hide the fact that these women
are nothing to me but a form of masturbation and a way to ease the discomfort of loneliness

I have taken the path of the least resistance telling myself that by being open with these women
being clear what I had and was willing to offer that it was ok and acceptable as such

just two people coming together to meet each others and their own needs if only for one night
and I suppose in the general sense there isn't anything wrong with this
but what I have denied to myself is not whether it is fair or ok
to interact with these women on this level
but instead whether it is fair or ok to interact with myself on that level

what I have thought about recently and despite not really wanting this conclusion
determined that it is not good for me to have these sorts of relationships and interactions
especially when they are the rule, instead of the exception

I want, no, need a stable emotional and intellectual connection with a woman
to be my primary form of intimate interaction and while playful dalliances were less harmful to me
when they were the odd exception as the rule I fear it has been to my detriment

in the past four weeks or so. I haven't had a woman, in my bed or otherwise
in fact, I pretty much haven't gone out to a club at all and contrary to my expectations
it hasn't bothered me at all

with the exception of a bet a year or so ago which seemed like two months of hell without sex
I am currently in my longest period without intercourse since I became sexually active

while I will admit, it feels somewhat odd to not be interested in sex,
[at least sex which is without a emotional and intellectual connection]
in fact, not to feel even much of a drive for it
[not that I don't get horny, just that I don't feel the need to seek out
any attractive chick for such purposes]

in fact, even my porn seems less interesting to me because
my fantasies are now more emotional and intimate in nature
as casual sex has become unattractive, if not unpleasant an idea to me

so while I've been beating around the bush for some time
my self-discipline avoiding the issue, trying to ignore what I feel
I have decided to hang up my spurs for a while
at least wait until I can be with someone I care about

I suppose in a way
it is time for me to grow the fuck up

Date: 2004-07-31 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lima-pcp.livejournal.com
You have reached the same decision as my roommate, albeit in a far more eloquent manner.

Date: 2004-07-31 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plural.livejournal.com
ummm

I think you misunderstood

I wasnt coming out of the closet

Date: 2004-07-31 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lima-pcp.livejournal.com
although even still the majority of my extra-relationship sex has been with women,

What was the minority? Goats?

Date: 2004-07-31 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] genesisdiem.livejournal.com
everyone experiments in college

Date: 2004-07-31 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lima-pcp.livejournal.com
Blame Canadaaa, blame Canadaaaa...

Date: 2004-07-31 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plural.livejournal.com
hey

the llamas up here

are much better

than the woman

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why Llamas of course

Date: 2004-07-31 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plural.livejournal.com
goats?

eww

thats disgusting

pervert

(notice the comma, not period in the quotation selected)

Re: *smirk*

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*bows*

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Date: 2004-07-31 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ignote.livejournal.com
This may sound weird, but it's pretty easy to find clarity when you're not fucking like mad. I'm not abstinent or anything, and I think lack of sex can be equally detrimental to one's mental/emotional well being. Maybe this is just a personal observation, something I've concluded from my own experiences. Sex was probably sort of like a drug for me in my younger days. I'd live between fixes, but always waited for the next a little too eagerly without paying as much attention as I should have to the source or the quality. (Not that you're me or anything.)

Date: 2004-08-01 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] budhaboy.livejournal.com
Not to be a dick or anything, but do you think this recent revelation could have anything to do with the current state of your mother?

That is, given recent events, do you think you may be trying to please her one last time?

Date: 2004-08-01 10:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plural.livejournal.com
you arent being a dick, and it is a perfectly reasonable idea but in this case

not really no

I've been avoiding examining the issue for some time and even though I was aware it needed to be.

and while this post was made today, I had been trying out how it felt while still avoiding the decision for over a month, or well before the stuff with mother really entered my radar scope.

besides that my mother has never really had a problem with my sex life, primarily because she doesnt have a clue what it entails.

I know she made an appearance in my dream castigating me for my behavior but that was I think because I was unhappy with it, and suspected she would be, not because she knows anything about it and/or is unhappy with it.

Date: 2004-08-01 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] budhaboy.livejournal.com
I suppose dick wasn't quite right... the first post of the day is always my worst.

In my mind's eye I was wondering not about your mother's influence on your sexlife, rather your mother's influence on your relationships... You've suggested before that she'd be much happier if you'd settle down and start cranking out grandchildren... I wonder if you aren't compensating for that desire now while you feel you still have a chance.

Or not, what the fuck do I know? I'm a statistican... not a pshrink.

Date: 2004-08-02 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plural.livejournal.com
*grin*

If I was actually settling down and having kids
I could see your point

but seeing as I am not, and dont see it happening any time soon
especially while I am up here

this was more than anything else
to distill the entire post to a sentence

a decision to limit my sex life to situations where there is more than simply physical attraction, to bring emotional and intellectual attraction back into it.

I am not saying that I will only have sex within a commited relationship, although that is preferred (and highly unlikely here) but more that, I need to grow the fuck up and stop acting like a gigolo

Date: 2004-08-01 06:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] resilience.livejournal.com
I've been tossing around this idea, too. While casual intimacy is fun, it's not really intimate. Everything feels better when it's deeper.

Date: 2004-08-01 11:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] girl-on-a-stick.livejournal.com
Yep.


Does this included llamas?

Date: 2004-08-01 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plural.livejournal.com
oh
damn
I knew I was forgetting something

Date: 2004-08-01 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asrei.livejournal.com
You be a stronger person than I.

Date: 2004-08-02 06:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azul.livejournal.com
That deserves a big, girly "AWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!"

Date: 2004-08-02 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plural.livejournal.com
hmm? awwwwwww like in

aww shucks?
or
aww how sweet?

Date: 2004-08-02 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thesheryl.livejournal.com
Wo. I did the same thinking and came to the same conclusion at the end of 2000. Didn't do so well on the execution of my no-sex-without-relationship plan. Old habits die hard. And loneliness is a big magnet that draws sexual intimacy in the absense of love. But, I seem to have worked it out. The fact that I've had sex six times in the last two-and-a-half years attests to my success. (One, a guy I dated briefly until his stupidity became a major factor: Two, my best male friend.) I feel better now that I know I'm strong enough not to settle for less than a very good thing. In the meantime, I have excellent friends, magic hands and a drawer full of toys, and I enjoy my own company. ( 'Cuz I'm really fucking cool...and modest too! ;) )

Growing up can be really good shit.

Date: 2004-08-02 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plural.livejournal.com
it isnt really a no sex without relationship plan
although that would be the ideal

I have just sort of fallen into a place
where someone being just physically attractive to me
has become enough

and more than anything
this was saying that it isnt

having emotional and intellectual attraction
in addition to physical attraction

or in other words
if I wouldnt date someone because they arent
mentally and emotionally attractive
then I shouldnt be sleeping with them either

Date: 2004-08-07 07:20 pm (UTC)

Date: 2004-08-02 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] consume.livejournal.com
I understand where you are coming from completely. I really do.

However, I don't think I am fully willing to change as of yet. I will still chase intimacy, even if only for a little while.

Date: 2004-08-02 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plural.livejournal.com
I hear ya

I think for me it is less of giving up chasing intimacy as deciding to limit it to places where I can atleast find more than just physical attraction
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