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this is a commentary/response to this post by Savonarola

For the Record

I don't wash floors
I don't do windows
I don't scrub toilets

Why? three reasons,

1) because I hate it

2) because to take Girolamo a step further,
chemical fumes make me sick, like vomiting
sick, pale face, cold sweat sick.

3) most importantly, I have woman to do
all of that stuff for me.

Now calm down
I can hear your jabbering already.

My wife, isn't going
to do any of that stuff either,
unless she gets some wicked
desire at 3 am to scrub something
(don't look at me funny, I have seen
it happen with more than one female)

The woman is my maid, and you know what,
I wouldn't hire a male maid either.
Why?
Simple,
I remember as a child, before my mom started using Carmen
(who incidentally is my maid as well)
the special joys of a mommy made bed.

The is something special about the way mommies make beds,
with love and stuff, that men just cant do.
I can make a bed tight enough to bounce a quarter,
but I cant duplicate the effect

so not only would I not hire a man as a maid
I wouldn't hire a young woman either
well
unless she looked really good in that
french maids outfit ... nevermind
we can talk about that another time

But there is something which
my dear Savonarola said
that I must address

The reward system idea
or bargaining for sex
specifically oral sex

Sex is not a bartering chip
a tool for my partner
to get me to obey her will

Of course there are several ways
women use sex against men

There is the sex for material gain: "honey I really want this pearl necklace" *battbattbatt*
the underlying message is, if you buy it for me, you will get lots of sex
This is a cute and endearing form of prostitution, which is all good with me.

Then is sex for attention: "honey you sure you are really too busy for this"
the underlying message, if you pay attention to me, I will fuck you.
Also cute and endearing, reminds you of that girl in high school with the glasses who .....
This has been very pleasurable in my life, but I think as I have written elsewhere that
it is a poor choice of tactics on the part of the female, in trying to get her needs met.
(do not confuse this with the simple come fuck me assertive woman stance)

Finally sex as blackmail:
This would be a either you do this or you don't get no sex ever.
I will start with the exceptions, when it comes to infidelities and things
of that nature which directly related to sex and therefore sexually
separating yourselves is a logical step
otherwise this is bullshit behavior and any woman who does it
is fucked up in my opinion, for one thing
have some self fucking respect
is your pussy the only thing that makes you
worth listening to? that is what you are saying
when you pull stunts like this

Be a woman and say
"Wait, you are not listening, This is
really important to me, and you need
to hear me out."

(for all you who are going say
"oh tried that and didn't work"
then you have a problem
in the relationship and should seek therapy,
passive aggressive behavior, such as
withholding sex is only going to fuck up
your relationship even worse)

Women should no more have to use sex
to get what they want, than men should
have to bargain to get sex.

In a relationship but especially in a marriage
two people agree to do the necessary things
to meet our partners emotional and physical needs
even if it isn't the most convenient

I sure as hell don't want to watch
Titanic for the 32nd time with her
but if it is on her list of emotional needs
to have someone to watch that crap with.

I will do it, happily
because it makes me happy
to make her happy.

Having sex with my partner
sits pretty damn high on my list
of physical and emotional needs

I expect oral sex every damn day
none of this once or twice a week crap

Sex too, I expect sex every day
would prefer twice a day (morning and night)
but I can be flexible and considerate

Of course
I am sure that many
of you are looking at
me like I am a raving fool

which is probably true
but I am smiling from ear to ear

Date: 2000-12-12 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beloth.livejournal.com
you hit the fucking nail on the head dude!!!!!

Date: 2000-12-12 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] puissance.livejournal.com
which isn't
so unreasonable to
expect,
after all.

i know many
women who
expect the same.




Dissenting arguments..

Date: 2000-12-12 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zaiah.livejournal.com
Twice a day is not enough.

Re: Dissenting arguments..

Date: 2000-12-12 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] puissance.livejournal.com
after some discussion
i must say
i concur.

you're not a raving fool

Date: 2000-12-12 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] subblimegrrl.livejournal.com
sex twice a day sounds good to me. actually, 4 or 5 times a day sounds good to me... but anyway.

everyday

Date: 2000-12-12 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mfluder.livejournal.com
Oral sex everyday? No wonder you're smiling....

hehe.

Date: 2000-12-12 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellarad.livejournal.com
*puts on her french maid uniform*

shall i clean your pipes for you?

*battbattbatt*

Twice a day

Date: 2000-12-12 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plural.livejournal.com
Darlings
I have
sex 6 times a day
like clockwork
my women
are always welcome
to join in
but I expect
them to do so
at a minimum of once a day
preferably twice
more than that
is just icing

*wicked grin*

absolutely

Date: 2000-12-12 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plural.livejournal.com
my pipes
could definatly use
a cleaning by the likes
of you
*wicked grin*
when shall I expect you?
From: [identity profile] savonarola.livejournal.com
mr plural, good sir

you may in fact be a raving lunatic
but
i can see your smile from here

take the post in truth as satire

i agree that if you are in a situation where you are using sex as a bargining chip you definitly have some other more serious issues....

and who dosen't expect sex once or twice a day, especially males, and the expression "oralin'" is an allusion to other things that will remain nameless here

ps
women use sex far too often to manipulate males but i think that the males that are stupid enough not to realize it after a while totally deserve it!

and
you are a very brave man to admit that you would watch [i notice you didn't say stomach] titanic 32 times....perhaps serious or perhaps kiddin i am not sure. i can tell you from pure instinct that i would not do it...you tell me that you have nothing better to do than watch titanic with this 'she' because it makes her happy and i guess i cannot dispute that...we all have to sacrifice something right?

but
regarding those:
"unless she gets some wicked
desire at 3 am to scrub something
(don't look at me funny, I have seen
it happen with more than one female)"
i have to ask you to please refrain from hanging around with those tweakers!

:p

i'm lookin at you in awe actually

Date: 2000-12-15 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lianna.livejournal.com
i love to stumble across a brave man's words. this was an incredible post. i agree with much of it and hope you find a women that will more than accomodate, rather will relish both yours and her desires.

i'm with ya on the oral thing. all the way.

you're cool. i'm adding you to hopefully read more posts like this one :)
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