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[livejournal.com profile] budhaboy got me thinking about the subject, so here goes.

Crossposted to [livejournal.com profile] debate

The question I often wonder listening to much of the debate and/or discussion over the Iraq war/occupation is what exactly do people really want? From my point of view, We invaded Iraq, got rid of an ugly dictator, this is a good thing, even if one doesnt buy the whole WMD reasoning (of which even I have my doubts). Now those people who were against the war to begin with, are using the prison scandal, the guerrilla warfare and civilian death tolls to argue against leaving Iraq. Personally, I see a clear responsibility on our part to buckle down and complete the job, pacify the resistance, and set up a functioning democratic and free country. I think people overall seem to have an unrealistic expectation as to how long this will take and what it will cost both in lives (US & Iraqi) and in money. I expect this overall process to take about ten years, allowing for gradual troop withdrawls after the first five or six.

I also think people need to realize that this is an ugly job in an ugly part of the world, and to expect life there to resemble an american city in six months is ridiculous.

That said, Bush is without a doubt fucking up, of course it isnt like anyone is helping him either, so we all bear some complicity.

So I propose the Plural plan for Iraq, and I will seperate each stage into three parts, Military, Economic and Politcal:

Stage One: [Timeline - the next 6 months]
Military: Double the US military forces on the ground, if necessary take troops from places like Germany to bolster our troop strength
Economic: Institute a comprehensive social welfare and home/business rebuilding program to feed, clothe and help them get their homes and business operating normally again
Political: Create a constitution & civil and criminal codes of law

Stage Two: [Timeline - 6 to 18 months out]
Military: Complete pacification of all resistance, identify areas of guerilla activity, isolate them and summarily execute one in ten males of military age in those areas.
Economic: Reopen the Iraqi oil pipelines and start selling their oil to help pay for the rebuilding of Iraq, provide preferential consideration to American companies bidding for rebuilding projects.
Political: Train a judiciary, establish civil and criminal courts and give them jurisdiction over Iraqi citizens

Stage Three: [Timeline - 18 to 30 months out]
Military: Train Iraqi police and slowly hand over small areas of territory to their governance [under US military supervision]
Economic: Institute a micro loan program to help Iraqis start businesses and participate/profit from the rebuilding of Iraq
Political: Train civil administrators, mayors, councilmen, and the like, turn over civil administration of towns then cities in a reverse order of size

Stage Four: [Timeline - 30 to 42 months out]
Military: Train and Iraqi Military and slowly hand over small areas or territory for them to secure [under US military supervision]
Economic: Create Iraqi subsidiaries of the American companies operating Iraqis utilities, and oil fields to be run by Iraqis
Political: Establish a limited democratic process by which Mayors and city councilmen can be elected

Stage Five: [Timeline - 42 to 66 months out]
Military: Establish major military bases in strategic areas, to set the groundwork for an american withdrawal
Economic: Create an Iraqi stock market, spin off the American subsidaries creating a critical mass of publicly traded companies within Iraq, limit initial IPO purchases to Iraqi nationals.
Political: Create a national congress, expand the existing democratic process to elect representatives to that body, give them control over regional administration

Stage Six: [Timeline - 66 to 90 months out]
Military: Begin a staged withdrawal of ground forces, leaving only a stabilizing force in the above mentioned bases to support a democratically elected government.
Economic: Re-open the Iraqi market to free international trade
Political: Create an executive branch, expand the existing democratic process to elect a national leader, give them control over national, international and military affairs

Stage Seven: [Timeline 10 years from now]
Having given the political and economic structures two and a half years completely free of American intervention to stabilize, we should be able to withdraw the remaining US forces completely, leaving behind a stable, democratic and free Iraq.

Go us.

Would this work / what would you change?

Is it better than the current administrations plan?

Date: 2004-05-13 08:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] budhaboy.livejournal.com
And buying more every day!

Yes, it's true... part of the shortage that is spiking oil prices is due to dubya' insistence to continue stockpiling the stratigic oil reserves.

As for 69M barrels, according to this that's enough to last us about 3.5 days...

that site, the energy information administration will fill you in on any arcane statistic you could possibly want to know about any form of energy.

I rarely hear of it in the news, and only know of its existence because I interviewed with them prior to my coming to work for the BLS.

I particularly like the kid's page hosted by the energy ant:





I don't even want to know how much the feds paid to have some artist come up with that.

Date: 2004-05-13 08:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lamotocyclette.livejournal.com
Ah, sorry, I mistyped. Should be billion, not million.

Date: 2004-05-13 09:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] budhaboy.livejournal.com
heh.

Billion?

That would suggest we are keeping 3000 days worth of oil in reserve? nearly 10 years?

I don't think so.

Abraham and other members of the Bush administration have said the reserve should be filled to its capacity of 700 million barrels and only be used for supply disruptions, not to lower prices. The reserve currently holds about 650 million barrels of oil, or 93 percent of capacity.

It's still an obscene amount of oil though, given if we were ever in a position to have to tap it, we'd likely reduce the consumption to something far less than 19M Barrels/day, extending it far beyond the 30(ish) day level they are shooting for.

Date: 2004-05-13 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lamotocyclette.livejournal.com
That's just the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

Date: 2004-05-13 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lamotocyclette.livejournal.com
Urgh, can't find my original source for that number again. Will have to see if I can find it on my computer at home.
Regardless, I still feel our refinery problem is having a far greater impact on gas prices right now that what we may or may not be importing from Iraq.

Date: 2004-05-13 10:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] budhaboy.livejournal.com
Ever since you made your comment, I've been passively trying to remember where I heard the breakdown of the pumpprice of a gallon of gas.

As I write this, I think it was on some cspanradio thing I was listening to...

The basic idea was the two largest parts of the price were Cost of Oil, and Taxes.

Refining, while third, wasn't the prime mover in the cost, as the price of oil has lept something like 30% in the last two months (see that EIA link for actual numbers).

Date: 2004-05-13 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plural.livejournal.com
Actually with regards to localized areas refining plays a much larger role.

The west coast of the US has been suffering inflated oil prices off and on for some time due to an lack of refining capabilities there.

While much of the problem out there has been or is being resolved, there was a serious of fires and environmental violations which shut down a significant amount of the refining capacity and raised gas prices.

I recall when I last lived in seattle, prices for gas on the west coast were significantly higher than the midwest and east coast specifically because of the refinery problem.

Date: 2004-05-13 10:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] budhaboy.livejournal.com
You know, now that you mention fire, I seem to remember a fire out west in a refinery a few weeks ago...

I could easily believe it's the case.

Date: 2004-05-13 10:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] budhaboy.livejournal.com
I stand corrected.

Date: 2004-05-13 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] budhaboy.livejournal.com
As for Iraq... The biggest problem with Iraq not producing even to pre war levels, is the Saudis have had to ramp up production to cover the shortfall, leaving them utterly unable to quickly compensate for demand spikes...

This is (IMHO) the primary rationale for some critics to call for stopping the fuelling of the SPR, and even start tapping it (with 670MBarrels, we could easily afford to drop a couple million barrels on the market until the production in Iraq gets up to speed... I mean they keep saying it should only be a week or so for that to happen, right?

:)

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